The Judgemental Psychosexual Therapist

Feb 15, 2022

You might think you've seen and heard it all, but every now and then, something new arises that further illustrates the extreme toxicity of certain Michael Jackson fans. In this instance, we have Ben from Cornwall, who phoned in to Talk Radio, hosted by Cristo Foufas, to share his thoughts on the subjects of Leaving Neverland, James Safechuck, and Wade Robson in April 2021.

The talk show commenced with a video call from Anika Kotecha, the co-founder of the misinformation website mjinnocent.com, who echoed the familiar "it was always about money" as well as recommended the fan-made documentary Square One to the host. Overall, the interview was civilised, if far from factual. However, the other co-founder Seány O’Kane, a long-term Jackson fanatic from Northern Ireland was conspicuously absent from the interview, though he did promote her upcoming appearance on the show via Twitter.

Watch Anika’s performance below.

After Anika's lacklustre performance, the spotlight shifted to Ben. He falls into the category of a non-fan who initially found Leaving Neverland very compelling. However, after conducting his own research on the allegations, including watching Square One, he reached the conclusion that Michael Jackson was innocent after all.

Unlike the typical fan or non-fan, who often lack knowledge about sexual abuse and mental health, Ben from Cornwall stands out. He asserts that he is a psychosexual therapist, presumably with years of experience.

Ben begins the conversation in a composed manner, but within minutes, he starts making dubious claims, leading to a series of aggressive attacks against James and Wade, all while claiming to be a mental health professional.

In the video, Ben makes the following claims:

The makers of Leaving Neverland predicted that dozens of other accusers would come forward.
The average child molester has 250 victims in their lifetime.
Square One is a compelling film and everybody should watch it on Amazon prime, while calling Leaving Neverland a one-sided hit piece (because Square One obviously isn’t).
Michael Jackson wouldn’t have put Wade Robson on the stand if he had been abused.
Wade Robson said he visited Neverland ranch 14 times and was molested hundreds of times, but his mother states they stayed considerably less than that.
That the overwhelming number of children who stayed in his bedroom say nothing criminal happened (the host was quite shocked by this statement, by the way).
James and Wade are not only motivated to make false allegations, but even encouraged by their solicitors because they could receive hundreds of millions of dollars.
James and Wade have also falsely accused Michael Jackson’s companies of facilitating the abuse which has directly affected other innocent individuals, including old ladies.
James and Wade should be charged with perjury and locked up.
James said he was sexually abused hundreds of times in a location that didn’t exist until three years after his stated date (referring to the Neverland train station).
Ben even goes on to recommend “Whatever Happens,” from the invincible album, even though he’s only just become a fan of Michael Jackson since the release of Leaving Neverland (shot yourself in the foot there didn’t you, Ben).

Watch Ben’s 15 minute performance below.

Admittedly, I was torn between amusement and revulsion upon hearing Ben's remarks. However, I quickly took the initiative to research the role of a "psychosexual therapist," just in case it meant something else, like: I’m a Michael Jackson stan pretending to be somebody I’m not just to glorify a dead celebrity.

According to counselling-directory.org.uk:

"Sex therapists are qualified counsellors, doctors or healthcare professionals who have completed extra training to help those having sex-related difficulties."

And:

"Psychosexual therapists should be trained with a minimum of two years in a post-graduate diploma in psychosexual therapy, plus a minimum of 200 supervised clinical hours."

Most importantly, a psychosexual therapist should be capable of offering a safe space for patients to openly discuss their problems without facing judgment.

In any case, let's delve into some of Ben's highly critical comments and assess their validity.

“Dozens of Accusers Didn’t Come Forward”

Since Leaving Neverland is 3 years old, I can't fully recall what Dan Reed did or didn't say regarding this. However, according to an nme.com article published on March 1, 2019, Dan Reed stated:

"I believe he sexually exploited a good many more" and “I think [more] will [come out], eventually, yeah. As the Michael Jackson fans say: ‘lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons’. And that’s exactly what’s happening here. Sooner or later, it will come out.”

Not the dozens that Ben claims, but does that really matter? Five accusers who collectively allege hundreds of instances of abuse is extremely serious in my opinion.

It's worth remembering that Michael Jackson wasn't just an opportunistic child sex abuser; he carefully groomed and seduced young boys, turning them into his intimate bed-sharing friends – boys who idolized him, as did their parents.

Perhaps Ben is overlooking the general nastiness present within the Michael Jackson fan community. This is not only evident on social media, but also in people putting up banners on buses and calling into radio shows with very judgmental views. This behavior likely has a significant impact on the victims, potentially deterring them from coming forward.

“Child Molesters Have 250 Victims”

Seriously, Ben? You didn't just coincidentally retrieve that from "Square One," did you?

Every country will have different statistics on the "average" number of victims a child molester has. Most professional guidelines don't even address such figures.

According to Darkness to Light, an organization dedicated to fighting child sex abuse, state:

"70% of child sex offenders have between one and 9 victims, while 20% have 10 to 40 victims."

They also point out that children who have been subjected to:

"Non-contact acts such as exhibitionism, exposure to pornography, voyeurism, and communicating in a sexual manner by phone or Internet", are also victims.

There has been accusations against Michael Jackson of engaging in phone sex (Terry George) and showing inappropriate, mature-related pictures to children (Corey Feldman).

“Square One Is a Compelling Film”

No, it's a film created by a stan, featuring other stans.

Instead of rehashing the same tedious content, I've already written several posts about Square One. This includes the questionable Sodium Amytal story, which supposedly was used on Jordan Chandler by his father to implant months and months of false memories within the span of just a couple of hours.

Link: /category/square-one/

“Wade Wouldn’t Have Been Put on the Stand If He Had Been Abused”

Wade Robson states in Leaving Neverland:

“He made me feel complicit, that I wanted it at least as much, if not more than him. And the thing is, the abuse didn’t feel strange because it was being done by this man that was like a god to me. So much of it was validation for me. But what does that mean, that I liked it? Like, I’m a freak too”.

From Child molesters: A Behavioral Analysis:

"Because victims of acquaintance exploitation usually have been carefully seduced and often do not realize or believe they are victims, they repeatedly and voluntarily return to the offender. Society and the criminal-justice system have a difficult time understanding this. If a boy is molested by his neighbor, teacher, or clergy member, why does he “allow” it to continue? Most likely he may not initially realize or believe he is a victim. Some victims are simply willing to trade sex for attention, affection, and gifts and do not believe they are victims. The sex itself might even be enjoyable. The offender may be treating them better than anyone has ever treated them."

And:

"Most of these victims never disclose their victimization. As previously stated younger children may believe they did something “wrong” or “bad” and are afraid of getting into trouble. Older children may be more ashamed and embarrassed. Many victims not only do not disclose, but they strongly deny it happened when confronted. In one case several boys took the stand and testified concerning the high moral character of the accused molester. When the accused molester changed his plea to guilty, he admitted the boys who testified for him were also victims."

Of course, putting Wade on the stand posed a risk. However, it was a risk that Jackson had to take. If Wade refused to help his friend, especially after his own mother advised him to do so, that in itself could be seen as an admission that something criminal occurred between them.

At the time, Wade was a young 22-year-old man with a flourishing career and a new wife. Did he want the world to know that his idol had been performing sexual acts on him, acts that he himself felt complicit in, or did he want to protect his reputation and the man he adored? It was quite a simple choice.

“Wade Robson Said He Visited Neverland Only 14 Times”

No, he didn’t.

From his 2005 testimony:

Q. Okay. How many times do you think you’ve stayed at Neverland?

A. Um, it’s got to be somewhere in the twenties or something like that. Mid-twenties.

Q. And have you stayed there for varying periods of time?

A. Yeah. Most of the time it’s usually like a weekend, you know. Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Q. What’s the longest amount of time, do you think, you’ve ever stayed at Neverland?

A. You know, I would say a week to a week and a half.

Based on the 25 times, which ranged from three days to 1 1/2 weeks, that would easily exceed a hundred times.

But his mother contradicted him.

Not true.

From her testimony:

Q. Have you been to Neverland?

A. Many times.

Q. How many times do you think you visited Neverland?

A. I have no idea. We average about four times a year since we’ve lived in the United States, which is 14 years now, and quite a few times before that.

Q. Do you remember the first time you visited Neverland?

A. Yes. It was in January of 1990.

While there is no definitive answer, the visits amount to considerably more than 14 times. Joy also testifies that they visited Neverland up to 30 times without Jackson's presence, which is often used by fans to discredit Wade.

None of those who testified for Jackson could consistently state the number of days they stayed at Neverland with or without Jackson. For example, Brett Barnes didn’t disclose that he spent as many as 350+ nights in Jackson’s bed; it was his sister who revealed this.

It is a mystery in itself why Ben is taking the Robsons' 2005 testimony seriously, especially when he called Wade a “perjurer” who should be locked up.

“The Overwhelming Number of Children Who Shared His Bedroom Say Nothing Happen”

The host, Cristo Foufas, was quite shocked by Ben’s comment. Think about it: Ben is not only glorifying Michael Jackson’s ability to forge one-on-one intimate bed sharing relationships with young unrelated boys, but also praising those now adult men for saying nothing happened, or saying nothing at all, while demonizing those who speak out.

Ben, you are one sick puppy.

“James and Wade Are Motivated by Money”

Wade disclosed in 2013, James in 2014, and nearly a decade later, neither has made any money from their “false allegations”, nor have their attorneys (unless you’re talking about legal fees, which are covered by James and Wade).

“James and Wade Have Falsely Accused Others, Including Old Ladies”

Referring to Michael Jackson’s companies, and presumably one of the old ladies is Norma Staikos. As the host said, if they can’t sue Michael Jackson directly because he's dead, who else can they sue?

Are those who were sexually abused by the deceased Jimmy Savile wrong to sue the Savile estate or the BBC?

“They Should Be Charged with Perjury and Locked up”

I’m speechless.

“James Said He Was Abused Hundreds of Times in a Building That Didn’t Exist until Three Years Later”

James states that he was abused over a four-year period from '88 to '92. The construction of the grand Neverland train station, which Ben is referring to, began in the autumn of 1993, and while there is no official opening day, it was most likely finished by the middle of '94. That’s not three years, but 18 months.

James doesn’t claim that he was abused hundreds of times at the Neverland train station, but instead describes multiple locations where he and Jackson had sexual encounters, including the station.

Even mjinnocent.com validates this:

Ben, when questioned about his “professional” psychosexual therapist opinion, even agrees that sexual abuse survivors do muddle up dates and locations. However, according to him, James had from 2014 to get his story straight, therefore he must be lying.

This notion presents a strange logic. It suggests that while those who fabricate "false allegations" can make mistakes, those suffering from childhood sexual abuse trauma cannot.

For further understanding of sexual trauma and inconsistencies, explore the following resources: Why sexual assault survivors forget details and Child Molesters: A Behavioral Analysis

Who Is Ben from Cornwall?

Let's be bluntly honest. Ben from Cornwall was not an impartial individual who, after conducting personal research, changed his belief from Michael Jackson's guilt to innocence. Instead, he appeared to be a thinly veiled Michael Jackson fan intending to mislead the host and audience.

Ben even agreed with Anika Kotecha's recommendation of Square One, flawlessly pronouncing her unusual name, while the host (like anyone unfamiliar with her) struggled with its pronunciation.

There has been speculation, including by myself, that Ben from Cornwall may have been the MJ Innocent co-founder, Seány O’Kane, who, along with Anika, organized the call-in but used a false identity.

Anika and Seány were seen congratulating each other the next day and "pretending" to express their admiration for "Ben" using various emojis.

The host even questioned whether it was Seány O’Kane and why he would use a fake alias instead of his real name.

On April 30th, Cristo stated he had received ongoing abuse following the interview, and expressed doubts about the credibility of @MJInnocentUK after it became apparent that Ben was an impostor.